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GoldSGoldS 22 Sep 2019 00:54
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Shark Roll

Data (normal): 10, 10, 10, 9, 9, 10, 9, 10, 10, 9

by GoldSGoldS, 22 Sep 2019 00:54
GoldSGoldS 19 Sep 2019 01:33
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Mud Roll

Data (primordial): 13, 17, 16, 16, 16, 15, 16, 12, 14, 16

by GoldSGoldS, 19 Sep 2019 01:33
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 18 Sep 2019 01:26
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Darter Sushi

Data (normal): 7, 6, 8, 6, 8, 7, 6, 8, 7, 8, 7

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 18 Sep 2019 01:26
GoldSGoldS 18 Sep 2019 00:05
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Eye Roll

Data (normal): 11, 11, 11, 10, 10, 9, 11, 10, 9, 10

by GoldSGoldS, 18 Sep 2019 00:05
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 17 Sep 2019 22:39
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Squid Nest Roll

Normal: 10, 11, 11, 11, 10, 12, 12, 11, 10, 10

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 17 Sep 2019 22:39
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 17 Sep 2019 20:09
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Phoenix

Looking into the Phoenix getting stronger when hit by fire attacks, it looks like she gets bonus Fire Power equal to (Square root of Fire damage taken), rounded down. Each attack is calculated separately, it looks like (so if you did 16 and then 16 damage, it would add 4 + 4 = 8 Fire Power)

Fire attacks taken ("makes stronger") Observed Damage Range My FD Base Power of Blazing Feather attack Bonus FP
Normal 3-6 dam 14 17 0
11 6-12 dam 14 20 3
12 6-12 dam 14 20 3
15 6-11 dam 14 20 3
16 7-14 dam 14 21 4
19 7-14 dam 14 21 4
12+13=25 12-18 dam 14 23-26 6-8
16+13=29 11-19 dam 14 24-25 7-8
19+18=37 20-20 dam 14 24-34 7-17

Probably once you reach a threshold, you get the effect.

Testing Blinded effect, I got it after doing the following damage (* indicates got the effect msg)

20+20+20* = 4+4+4*
16+16+16* = 4+4+4*
15+15+15+15* = 3+3+3+3*
11+11+11+11* = 3+3+3+3*
9+9+9+9* = 3+3+3+3*
8+8+8+8+8* = 2+2+2+2+2*

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 17 Sep 2019 20:09
GoldSGoldS 15 Sep 2019 18:06
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Heavy Puffball

Data (Normal): 11, 11, 11, 10, 11, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11

by GoldSGoldS, 15 Sep 2019 18:06
GoldSGoldS 13 Sep 2019 00:37
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Mislit Nigiri

Data (Primordial): 9, 10, 8, 8, 8, 8, 10, 10, 8, 9

by GoldSGoldS, 13 Sep 2019 00:37
GoldSGoldS 12 Sep 2019 19:32
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Mislit Sashimi

Data (Primordial): 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 5, 6, 4

by GoldSGoldS, 12 Sep 2019 19:32
GoldSGoldS 11 Sep 2019 19:26
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Writhing Cell Sample

Data: 9, 10, 9, 9, 9
Data from main page: 10, 9, 10

by GoldSGoldS, 11 Sep 2019 19:26
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 11 Sep 2019 00:23
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Wall Turret

180 combat chain samples:
61 - Short Burst
63 - Short Burst:Withdraw
56 - Short Burst:Withdraw:Full Auto

Seems to no longer use Indirect Fire. Not sure when that was changed.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 11 Sep 2019 00:23
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 10 Sep 2019 02:13
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Shovel Drone

Since the Awakened Student (from Halloween 2012), Kinak confirmed that there are some opponents that don't just select from their list of technique chains randomly. The Awakened Student would use low-power attacks until it got the "Green Energy Recharge" move, and then use a longer/more powerful chain.

Finally found a second example of this: the Shovel Drone always uses this move set:
- First round: Scoop Closer:Shovel Batter
- All further rounds: Leg Stab:Scoop Closer:Shovel Batter

So we know that the round count matters (Kinak has confirmed this is tracked), and possibly the technique used on the previous round matters.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 10 Sep 2019 02:13
GoldSGoldS 10 Sep 2019 00:44
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Caviar

Data: 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2

Ocean Sight has no effect, probably because they're salt-cured and not raw eggs.

by GoldSGoldS, 10 Sep 2019 00:44
CryptodynamicCryptodynamic 09 Sep 2019 15:11
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Christmas 2019

Probably doesn't hurt to start thinking early. And maybe getting a bunch of notes we've collected over the years in one place will jog something. In 2016, Kinak said:

Guess I should mention that there are two new abominations to find, on top of at least that many undiscovered from previous years.

That's the year we found the pyrotechnic snowman, but we didn't find the other new one. Since the manyheaded snowman appears to have been an addition new to last year, that means we've still got three undiscovered snowmen (at least one of which is presumably a snow snake), plus figuring out how to properly encounter the manyheaded one.

Looking at item IDs, we have potentially missing drops from 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016 and 2017. Some of those gaps are in places that it's hard to say if it's Christmas content or just stuff that was released near then, though.

Looking at the various hints we've gotten on snakes, I wonder… Can anyone confirm that they have killed at least some punks on the quad during Christmas events in past years? There'd be a stronger link if the snakes were added the same year the Punk Uprising quest was implemented, but from stuff below it does look like the snakes were added in 2013. Still, because of the way the uprising quest works, we know punk deaths is a thing that's being counted, at least on a per player basis, so it would fit in with some of the hints below.

Hints on the snakes (and a bit on other missing snowmen) -

Q: Any hints at mysterious snake snowmen we seem to have missed this year? Or will we just have to try again next time?

A: They will be there next year. Kind of funny. I was planning on having an arc of them but things got well, 'hey there’s things going on here' but not til the first actual unlock. But I was planning to have more stuff past there but didn’t end up getting to it because of the server thing.


Q: It looks like again last Christmas we didn't make much progress toward figuring out the snow snakes. Any chance of a hint to keep in mind for this year?

A: I actually tried to change the description to make that a little more cluey but didn't help. I think I will try to add more clues next year.

In 2014, the message for the shadows appearing had changed from 'The snowmen's shadows carve strange patterns on the snow, as though tiny snakes had been dancing over the drifts.' to 'Everyone's snowmen cast strange shadows, carving patterns through the snow like tiny snakes had been dancing over the drifts.'


Q: I found it curious you should mention during Christmas that you only liked adding content for currently available unearthly items. Was one of those hidden snowdudes related to an unearthly? Or any of that new Christmas content unearthly related?

A: I think the reason that came up, someone was asking about wearing the knitted hat with sweaters, and I didn't want to add that because the hat was not in season. None of the new snowmen were unearthly related. Something I hadn't been counting before I started counting, and the petrol stuff, and some old stuff people haven't figured out.

Q: It's still a few months away, but any chance of some clues on finding snow snakes this Christmas?

A: Um. Yeah! It's sort of, if I recall, going a little orthogonal to the normal thrust of the things you are counting at Christmas. Not a new thing that is being counted, just a different thing that is being counted, and just hasn't gotten to the levels needed. I have full faith you'll get there.

Also, a note I recorded monitoring the leaderboards that year. At the point the patterns appeared, we seemed to have -

According to the screen, there were a total of 228 snowmen built and 300 torn back down. The total Abomonometer reading is 557.

An Abomonometer reading of 500 had not been enough to trigger it. And it was probably at around 290-something torn down when I saw them.


Q: When helping out the Hipsters, sometimes you build monstrous snowmen and sometimes you build tiny snowmen. Is there any way to control that?

A: [Searches] Those encounters are more indicators than something you need to… not counting x number of small snowmen or large snowmen. Letting you know when flags go up.

Q: Any hints on snow snakes? I'd really like to actually see them one of these years.

A: It's just counting something that's fron a direction that's a little different from the rest of the snowmen, and there's rewards off the beaten path and that's why they haven't been encountered yet.


Q: At the start of last Christmas, the Manyheaded Snowman accidentally showed up in the Snow Goons encounter. Were we ever close to unlocking it for real?

A: (checks) There's some crazy stuff in here. Oh, you were 4% away from unlocking it. You got super close. You'll get it next year with a little bigger push.

Q: Speaking of Christmas, we've fought the Abominable Remains only once on Christmas 2010 and the Snowmonstrosity from Christmas 2011 on. Would it be possible to get them to alternate, or to get some kind of choice encounter where people would be able to influence which one shows up?

A: Hm. Yeah, I should either make a third boss, or bring that back. The Abominable Remains are pretty awesome.

Keep an eye out for a different boss this year?

Q: Christmas followup! Any way to influence if we build tiny or huge snowmen from the hipsters?

A: I believe that is based off a communal counter, it switches over after a while. Nothing that an individual can do, other than advancing stuff.

by CryptodynamicCryptodynamic, 09 Sep 2019 15:11
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 08 Sep 2019 14:00
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Pit Spider
Chain data samples:
Chain Samples
1 Slip Close 12
1:2 Slip Close:Poison Bite 9
2 Poison Bite 10
3 Webbing Wrap 12
3:2 Webbing Wrap:Poison Bite 12
3:2:1 Webbing Wrap:Poison Bite:Slip Close 25

The "Webbing Wrap:Poison Bite:Slip Close" chain seems twice as common as the rest.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 08 Sep 2019 14:00
GoldSGoldS 08 Sep 2019 02:58
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Grave Mushrooms

Data (Normal): 6, 7, 7, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 6

by GoldSGoldS, 08 Sep 2019 02:58
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 07 Sep 2019 03:53
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Massive Clam

I didn't keep exact count of my failures/successes, but there may be some hidden "clam harvesting skill" counter. Today's harvesting was approximately:
Fail, fail, success, fail, fail, success, fail, success, success, success, success, success, success, success, success

But might just be a random run of successes.

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 07 Sep 2019 03:53
bigalphillipsbigalphillips 06 Sep 2019 00:39
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Clean Rags

data: 10,10,14,14
(making sure to use after resting)

by bigalphillipsbigalphillips, 06 Sep 2019 00:39
CryptodynamicCryptodynamic 05 Sep 2019 15:18
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Southside Blend

Data points: 5, 5

by CryptodynamicCryptodynamic, 05 Sep 2019 15:18
GoldSGoldS 05 Sep 2019 01:45
in discussion Hidden / Per page discussions » Staring Maki

Data (Primordial): 19, 24, 22, 19, 23, 24

by GoldSGoldS, 05 Sep 2019 01:45
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