Data points (sunless): 10, 12
Also got 25 from eating two at once.
Nothing chaining it either way with Ghoul Bite at least, with or without the worm mandible equipped. I don't have Ghoultouched, though. I've also been trying it with various types of weapons, but haven't gotten a result from anything else.
Also, it seems to be the same message about trying to carve meat even with drones and the like.
Hmm, very longshot idea: anything for using it before or after eating techniques?
I got this and Slicing Mandible in my first combat testing out wearing both the worm scale shirt and worm scale pants, with the worm mandible. Was etheric, fighting a rat king in the sewers. Full equipment:
Hat: guard helm
Weapon: worm mandible
Offhand: (None)
Shirt: worm scale shirt
Pants: worm scale pants
Gadget: Myers sampling kit
I was using Dive for Cover, Shield Block, Punch and Brutality in the fight. Have the Rapid Molting skill.
Beat the White Worm again and tried healing up to full HP before further adventuring in the garage, and got this same encounter and Rapid Molting again after a few energy, so looks like it's not making a determination based on whether or not you're wounded.
Data (sunless): 8, 10, 9, 10, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10
Data (Normal): 7, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 7
No obvious change while under water, nor with Ocean Song (I have Fae Eyes so can't test Ocean Sight).
Deep hunter: You count the beads of your necklace, each click adding more pressure to the hunter for 14 etheric damage.
Writhing mass: You count the beads of your necklace, each click adding more pressure to the writhing mass for 18 etheric damage.
Ocean king: You count the beads of your necklace, each click adding more pressure to the king for 1 etheric damage.
Ruins Octopus: You count the beads of your necklace, each click adding more pressure to the octopus for 21 etheric damage.
No obvious change with lake pearl necklace or knuckle necklace equipped. Incidentally, nothing special for gaining Eclipse with knuckle necklace installed.
So, the technique does not appear to work at all without the fishbone necklace equipped, even when near water like the docks. Possibly it does something while underwater, but I can't immediately check that. Maybe something like Ocean Song?
It looks like it's probably making a distinction between opponents that breathe air versus not. I got the choking gasp result against human, animal, and ghoul opponents, as well as a twisted hound. I got the increasing pressure result against a lake serpent, flying eye, writhing mass, and trash golem, so far.
So, fresh out of a reset, I gave her 7 mud eels, and was just getting XP and videos. I then gave her a crate of Eclipse, and on the next mud eel I handed over I got the necklace.
Gave her three giant pikes and another mud eel, just got limnology videos.
Special Combat AI going on here. Any time the drone uses the "takes heavy steps towards you" move, it will follow up next round with a high-damage melee attack; otherwise, it uses ranged techs. If you kill it quick you can ignore melee defense.
Yes, I have given her an eclipse sample. I also gave her fish in the past so I don't know if it's a quantity of fish or just a rare.
I put on my Etheric Duration gear + necklace and used Liquified Eclipse, and I got 3 instances of it, so I guess it's duration/20:
//You slam the vial of liquified Eclipse. Some fumes escape through your nose.
You're pretty sure your brain went with them.
You've gained 60 duration of Fae Sight.
You learned a new Technique: Choking Depths (3)//
Choking Depths
Choke opponents with the power of the depths and Eclipse
Chain: 3
Type: Etheric
Attribute: Strength
Special: Base Damage 12 with Eclipse
I couldn't get the Andrea encounter with 60 turns of Etheric but I caught a couple giant pike and will try for more necklaces as soon as it wears off.
edit: aaand I just realized I coulda used Slag Antidote
Thanks muttspam! Have you given her a crate of Eclipse this run (if you started Dr. Thomas Quest)? I thought I had during my earlier testing but now realize I didn't. I still can't get the necklace after giving her Eclipse and then a dozen or so more fish. I suspect that giving her Eclipse is at least one trigger I was missing.
For most equipment giving Etheric techniques, you need to gain at least 20 duration of Etheric at once. I suspect you didn't take enough. Either 4 single Eclipse at once or craft some liquified Eclipse should work.
I put it on and popped a single Eclipse for 5 duration. I fought and won a couple battles (all ranged techniques) but did not get any new techniques.
Gave Andrea another mud eel, did not get a second one.
It can be salvaged (although I didn't want to do that until I get another one) and it can be put into the gang stash as a curiosity. It does not show up in any of the ingredient lists when crafting/experimenting.
I just got this necklace from Andrea. I was in my hacking gear + heavy containment helmet (looking for the drone network) but every time Andrea popped up I gave her a different fish, in this order:
Lake Squid
Lake Serpent Sample
Lake Perch
Lake Bluegill
Bait Bluegill
Dock Pike
Mud Eel
First fishes got limnology video and/or xp. After the mud eel:
//You hand her your mud eel and she starts a careful examination. Well, as careful as she can on a windswept, toxic beach.
"Ooo! This is a rare specimen. We don't have as much comparison data, but it's interesting in its own right."
She doesn't do a great job of describing the results, but does do a great job complimenting you on the contribution to her research.
"It'll be easier if you just watch this." She sends a video over to your comm.
You found: limnology video
She looks down at the meticulously arranged leftover bones and purses her lips. Despite it clearly being her handiwork, she ignores it as she leaves.
You found: fishbone necklace
You've earned 5 XP in Will//
So I guess fishing gear is not necessary, and the only buff I had was Security Minded. I have used a couple limnology videos so I don't know if there is a hidden flag or if it's just a chance when turning in a rare fish.
Mastema says she got it from Andrea after giving her some fish (maybe a skullfish, lake squid and serpent venom gland?), and the Choking Depths technique from taking Eclipse with the necklace on. Skullfish might be key or just rare?
Using this with cold depths active might unlock something related to the fishbone necklace.
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With no other obvious changes in stats, I both succeeded and failed to jump her silently at 6 SP. May be semi-random?
6 SP: fail, sucess, sucess, sucess, sucess, fail, sucess
Data points (primordial): 18, 17, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18